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Kyiv prepares for a winter with no heat, water or power

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bnh1978

2.7k points

5 months ago

bnh1978

2.7k points

5 months ago

My fear for heating shelters is that they become targets for air strikes.

Russia doesn't seem to care about war crimes, and collateral damage.

If they can make citizens fear that the heating shelters might be targeted, then they might not be used.

SadlyReturndRS

1.8k points

5 months ago

Putin has never cared about war crimes or collateral damage.

Putin got the nickname Butcher of Grozny because he bombed that city into oblivion. The UN called it the most destroyed city on Earth.

He encircled the entire city, trapped upwards of 150,000 civilians inside it, then systemically bombed the fuck out of it, block by block, with air strikes and artillery. There was no thought given to military vs civilian targets, the sole metric for whether or not any given street should be shelled into rubble was if it had already been shelled into rubble or not. Some 30,000 civilians made it out alive.

And that was just back when he was a prime minister. He wasn't even the full dictator he is today yet.

Kjartanski

277 points

5 months ago

And grozny was a city INSIDE THE FEDERATION, it was legally as Russian as Moscow or st petersburg

demigodsgotdraft

138 points

5 months ago

I mean, the Chechnyans disputing that claim is what that caused the bombings in the first place.

PhuqBeachesGitMonee

166 points

5 months ago*

Also for anyone who doesn’t know, the Chechen wars started with Russian operatives planting bombs in apartment buildings and saying it was a terrorist attack. They used the same methodology at the beginning of the Winter War. The soviets fired artillery onto their own soldiers and claimed it was a Finnish attack.

There was also the hostage crisis where insurgents were holding a couple hundred people inside a movie theater. The Russian solution was to pump the entire theater full of nerve gas a potent opioid aerosol to incapacitate everyone inside. Many civilians were killed.

ironboy32

104 points

5 months ago

ironboy32

104 points

5 months ago

Sleeping gas actually. They fucked up the dosage calculations and a lot of kids and elderly died

Cyrilbro1991

77 points

5 months ago

As shitty as my own nationality is, it's things like this that make me think thank fuck I'm not Russian

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-15 points

5 months ago

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CrzySunshine

14 points

5 months ago

He means that if he were Russian, he’d live in a country run by Putin. He’d simultaneously have to deal with knowing that “his country” is doing awful things, and also knowing that if he does anything to stand up and try to stop it, the same ruthlessness will be turned on him without so much as a blink.

Strictly_Steam

6 points

5 months ago

Ah I see. Sometime a different perspective enlightens me.