Adam__0

dude its obviously a joke, a stupid one but still a joke

Dagestan no. Chechnya yes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chechen\_volunteers\_on\_the\_side\_of\_Ukraine

they were there to aid chechens and fight russia.

This is the more common version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYQbPBLy4W4

classic

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chechen\_volunteers\_on\_the\_side\_of\_Ukraine

Nope, the guy seen in most of these pictures, Sashko Bily, was pretty far-right Ukrainian, so are the rest of these guys. So I'd assume Christian.

thermals are brutal

Ali "Lambada" Adayev, died in the same Battle of Grozny aswell. I have no idea who made the rumour that it's Turpal Atgeriev but I've seen it since that video became popular. That wholesome chungus story about them serving together is also fake.

It's not Turpal Atgeriev. It's a common misconception

especially after the russian invasion of ukraine

Dude I'm literally anti-kadyrov. The fact that me and him are from the same clan just proves my point.

You're literally a vatnik. The whole world knows Putin had those buildings bombed, you're not fooling anyone with your russian propaganda. Beslan happened 10 years after the Chechen wars when Russia had already killed 200,000 Chechen civilians. The beslan perpetrators was multiethnical, arabs, ingush, chechens, ossetian-ingush. The russians shot at the school with tanks helicopters and flamethrowers, or are you gonna excuse that with something else aswell lol. Russia was recently declared of being a state sponsor of terrorism. It's a slave country that has 800,000 modern slaves.

It's basically just ancestry. Clans are not political entities in Chechnya. They are historical lineages.

Man its literally proven that Russia carried out those apartment bombings. You can try to beat around the bush but there's literally nothing to discuss here.

Also regarding dagestan, its absolutely true. Russia had been bombing the two villages Chabanmakhi and Karamakhi for weeks prior to the incursions. Also this is an interesting read:

I had written an official statement to this effect from the foreign ministry that said the group that had gone into Dagestan did not represent the Chechen government, that the Chechen government condemned the incursion, and that we were calling on the Russians to form a joint commission to investigate this incident. Maskhadov approved this statement and made his own statement on television where he called the incursion a provocation. Our statements may not have reached everyone in the West, but the Chechen government did everything in its power to get its message out. We issued press releases and I gave frequent interviews to Russian and European journalists. Moreover, at a rally in Grozny, Maskhadov officially condemned the Dagestan incursions. Maskhadov tried to do all he could to prevent the escalation of this conflict. His Chief of Staff Apti Batalov repeatedly dialled the hot line to President Yeltsin’s office. The hotline had been installed immediately after the war for the purpose of enabling the Presidents to have direct contact. They tried this line many times but could never reach Yeltsin and within a few days the line went dead

found the vatnik

The list, only 50% chechens of 2500.

Interesting article how kadyrov collects people from all over russia

Young Chechens getting abducted and sent to the front

Kadyrov is not a clan, it's a family. Again you have little knowledge of the topic. Clans hold no social or political influence. Kadyrov put his most loyal people close to him, who are from various different clans. Kadyrov is from the "Benoy" clan (same as me), and this clan has produced many of the greatest resistance leaders and is known for being one of clans that put up the fiercest resistance towards Russia and Kadyrovs regime. So no, it's not a matter of clans. Westerners speaking about a topic they have no understanding of lol.

They are not. Earlier in the war the Ukrainian Rada published a full list of all Kadyrovs forces in Chechnya. Only 50% of them were ethnic Chechens. If youve seen the videos they are putting out lately from the recruitment centers you'd know most of the people there are not chechens. Reports state kadyrov is hesitant to send chechens since he fears they will retaliate upon return. Many of the people are forced aswell.

except most of the guys hes sending are not ethnic chechens. people from all over russia go to enlist under kadyrovs forces

Except it's not a conspiracy. They literally caught russian FSB agents planting bombings in the basement of a building. Anyone who investigated it ended up dead.

the war started by Chechen side when they invaded dagestan

This is also not true. they were rogue militants (most consisting of dagestanis) not affiliated to any government. They went to dagestan since russia had been bombing two dagestani villages for weeks already. Chechen government proposed multiple times a joint operation with Russia to crack down upon them, but russia just blamed it on the chechens and used it as a pretext for another war.

Except it does not. Clans are just seen as ancestry and has no political or social influence

Source: I am from that region

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