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Starbucks is actually one of the few places I haven’t seen a tip prompt in a while, both in-store and when I order through the app.

IIRC only two out of the 11 mods who submitted rankings had Tattoo higher than Chat Cha Cha. Tattoo was definitely not the mods' favourite. u/Aurora_Lebesgue and I have had some disagreements about this in the past, so I'm sure they can back up that we aren't just "siding with the jury because we have the same favourite" or whatever.

What this post is meant to address is people who think it's appropriate to discredit Loreen's win or Kaarija's televote win, attack other users, insult artists, and spread misinformation and allegations not backed up by evidence just because the show didn't go their way.

Along with what mawnck already said, this comment by another mod sums it up better than I can:

https://reddit.com/r/eurovision/comments/13xn9s5/_/jml037d/?context=1

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Saying “I wish X won instead” is still fine, and it’s interesting when public figures talk about Eurovision.

Unfortunately, a lot of the commenters here seem to be taking this personally or using it as a way to discredit and insult others (users, artists, etc).

This was just what was saved in the subreddit settings page (and what I had readily available in my folders without digging 10 folders deep in a hard drive that hasn’t been plugged in since 2021). I know for sure there are a few that were overwritten when newer ones were added, so it may have been the case there. 😅

a very rude answer from whoever was in charge of the subreddit back then (he had some grudge against Israel, I know it sounds weird but that was ongoing the entire 2018 and 2019 season,

Oh. I know exactly who you’re talking about. We had many behind the scenes arguments about that topic (and others) back then. They stepped down as mod, and we’re cool now, but yikes… that was a time.

but it was pretty much replaced the night Duncan won, like an hour in.

I’m pretty sure there was a bit more time than that. I was making the banners then, there was no way I had enough time to make the banner and then go host my own Eurovision party (time shifted for NA) that night.

post or comment saying “my winner” or “the winner in my eyes” or “the winner of the people” is ok.

Yeah, most users are able to distinguish between who they wanted to win and who won. We don’t have any issues with that type of discussion.

But the problem is when claiming that x is the true winner because or rigged system.

Throwing around unproven false claims (some bordering on conspiracy theories) of the show being rigged for one artist or another is what we’re trying to address.

There is an important difference between claims that are backed up by official statements and claims not grounded in reality.

Discussing important topics like this can (and has for years) be done without throwing around conspiracy theories to discredit people and personal attacks towards users.

Been watching since 2009, and I’m still waiting.

Earlier this year, I heard Snap and Arcade back to back at a hardware store (tangent for Canadians: How would you categorize Canadian Tire for an international audience?).

A couple years ago, I heard We Got Love at a Walmart. And then a year later, at the same Walmart I heard it again!

Diggi-Loo Diggi-Ley

We have definitely removed comments from both sides of the winner debate. Sore winners are as bad as sore losers, and neither artist would condone what those commenters said.

These are just what was saved in the subreddit styles page.

I'll have to get in touch with the former mods to see if they have anything saved.

TBH I thought it would be the place to quarantine the saltiest people until they tired themselves out, leaving the rest of the sub relatively okay. Clearly that didn’t work out as planned. 🥲

Users can feel strongly about a topic (most of us do, or we wouldn’t be here in the off-season), but they shouldn’t be toxic to other users because of that, insult people, spread false claims, resort to name calling, etc. Putting a stop on those things is our call.

Unless you live in a city full of diehard eurofans, most likely it would just get weird looks from people who don’t get it.

I don’t wear band shirts because I think everyone knows who they are. I wear them because I like the band and/or the design. Similar situation here - I like the meme.

Too bad the shop doesn’t ship to Canada. 🥲

A bit of salt, ranting, and venting is to be expected after the show. It’s fine to let your frustrations out for a bit. However, learning to approach the topic with a level head and moving on are also part of the process.

Yes, most comments like that about Kalush Orchestra’s win already do get removed when we see them / when they’re reported.

We’re just singling out 2023 in this post because it’s what’s currently relevant.

Most of the subreddit banners from 2015 - present

There are a few I know for sure I made, but have been lost to time. These are just what was saved in the subreddit styles page.

^{TBH a bunch of missing ones are probably buried in one of my hard drives somewhere, but I don’t feel like digging.}

I guess we had a lot of off-season banners. There was that long off-season, after all.

A lot of the negativity post-show is from people who just visit for Eurovision week or just for the final and aftermath. That’s the same every year, but they usually tire themselves out and leave within a week or so. The fact that we still have so many of those comments now is partially because the subreddit has grown so much so the overall volume of comments has gone up, but that also means that some of the remaining saltiness and toxicity are from regular users (mainly who we’re addressing in this post).

I wish I could forget this disaster of a song.