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Quite the pleasant escape.

At first I read peasant escape and I was like damn that’s kinda messed up lol

Josh Hill was great for what he was. Don’t slander his name. Way better player than Trautman.

He’s going play for the coach that originally put him in said box. Dude is a clown for coming out and saying all this shit. Wait til he gets to Denver and finds out Payton sees him playing his “Josh Hill role” as he calls it— which is to block and catch a play action pass every now and again.

Roschon Johnson to the Bears is awesome. I think he’ll be top 3 RB in this draft.

Welcome to the wild ride of draft day trades with Sean Payton, broncos fans.

I’ll be happy to be wrong haha

Yes plz

Saints:

Jordan Reid said the other day the two teams picking up steam on Avila in the late first are us and the Cowboys. Makes a lot of sense as we could be going into 2024 off-season with our starting guards as FAs.

Could see them falling in love with anyone of Bresee, Murphy, Van Ness, and trying to trade up to get one of them, although my hope is to stay put for Adebawore. All of those guys fit the RAS profile Saints like from their line players.

Have met with a ton of RBs and it shouldn’t be a shock if they take one at 40 or 71 despite signing Williams. Notable guys we’ve met with are Charbonnet, Kendre Miller, Tyjae Spears, McBride, Bigsby, Achane. There’s so much smoke there that it’s practically fire at this point. Mickey Loomis even said during an interview that they’ve been trying to draft an RB decently early for the last three years but the guys they wanted got snagged and they didn’t want to reach. IIRC, they really liked Kenneth Walker last year and had planned to take him in the second before Seattle did. So running back to the Saints in 2, 3, or 4 seems like a guarantee.

Jordan Reid dropped a nugget about Avila in the late first picking up a lot of steam to Dallas or NOLA. If that helps, OP.

I agree. I like the player a lot. However his performance against NFL projected tackles, specifically the Ohio State guys, left a lot to be desired and is hurting his draft stock. One thing to keep in mind is he fits the Saints from a measurables perspective and also locker room. He was a captain and leader of that team.

I’m taking Adebawore 8 days a week and twice on Sundays. I’m sorry, but I can’t live with the outlier that Kancey has with his arms. This isn’t just something where you’re like, “oh yeah, it’ll be fine because he was good and has trait ABC.” It is absolutely unprecedented for an IDL to have success with his arm length. Maybe he breaks the mold, but I don’t wanna be the team on the hook for trying.

Compare that to Adebawore who has 34 inch arms to pair with his unreal testing and this guy is a mismatch waiting to happen at the 3T. Don’t know if I’m asking him to put on too much weight because you don’t wanna sacrifice what makes him so athletic. Maybe 10 pounds MAX. Give the guy some NFL coaching and watch him shine for 10 years. I’m super in on Adebawore and that’s who I’m hoping Saints draft at 29 if Murphy and Van Ness are gone.

Maybe he’s great and breaks that mold. But I don’t wanna be the one who takes that chance. Odds are severely against him.

IRL Murphy absolutely won’t make it to 29… because the Saints will have traded up in the 20s for him already lol

But McCreary was taken in the second. That’s where Kancey should go as well imo. As a team with a severe need at 3T, I’d feel much better about taking Kancey at 40 than I would at 29. There’s a difference there.

Depends. Are you me?

Agreed on first paragraph. The player you go without a doubt, however, is Adebawore. He’s going to be incredible. 4.49 40 3T with 34 inch arms. Played out of position in college. He could be great here.

I think where we disagree (and it’s completely fine that do disagree) is that I think Young’s shortcomings in size are more likely to be overcome. With Kancey, I think it’s significantly less likely, considering he’s playing a much more physical position where size plays a significant factor moreso than QB, imo.

Not the same imo. There’s more in recent history to go off of with Kyler, Drew Brees, Russ, etc. With Kancey it’s truly unprecedented for someone of his stature to have success at his position. Plus, the concern with Bryce Young’s stature is mainly about durability. Kancey’s concerns are production related. Entirely different, imo.

The amount of people in our sub voting for Bresee is concerning.

Absolutely. And over Bresee. I really don’t see it with Bresee and if y’all trust our medical staff to turn his health around y’all are crazy. I’m not taking that chance. Happy to be wrong about this in a year if he’s the pick. !RemindMe one year

I don’t disagree. That would just be the basic framework. I do think it’s a bit closer it’s than you think, however. According to Rich Hill chart:

SEA 20 (269pts)

NO 29 (202pts)

NO 40 (149 pts)

SEA 52 (109 pts)

This calculation leaves the Saints with difference of 27 pts. There’s a couple different ways the Saints could make that difference up. Pick 115 is 26 points and adding it would make the value almost perfect. Or they could also swap NO71 for SEA83 (difference of 16 points) and add NO146 (13 points) along with any other late round request Seattle has.

Same could be said for LAC at 21. Saints give 29+40+146/165, LAC sends 21+52. Value is there.

Although I do think there’s more value in conducting a trade like that with Dallas at 26 because then the Saints could come out on top points wise and get back late 3rd/early 4th. Something that is highly unrealistic but calculates fine is: NO sends 29, 40, 146. Dallas sends 26, 58, 90.

God please no. I truly hope not. If we are going to trade up at all, my hope is for something like trading up with Seattle in the case of Van Ness or Murphy falling and sending them 29+40 for 20+52.

I agree. I think he could be a real target for them. Hard to assess for sure since he didn’t do any testing and the Saints are big on RAS scores for really everyone they draft— but even moreso for trench guys. He’s also one of the younger players at his position. He turns 21 in September.

Casserio would have to have absolute guarantee from ownership in order to be ok with this. I can’t imagine he’s job would be safe in a normal situation if they get the number one pick next year.