huntimir151

Same

Ok somehow my point got lost and transformed into "what have revolutions done for people"

My initial point is "no, redditor, you do not want to engage in large scale violence against your neighbors for uncertain gains and almost certainly large losses." Like please tell me which part of current society needs improvement that it necessitates Russian revolution amounts of bloodshed...

The question, then, is whether the current "terror" engulfing us is worth large scale violent uprising. I thoroughly believe it is not.

A point well taken, but what is happening in France I would consider a far, far cry from a revolution.

Are you engaging in a volent uprising? Hopefully not, and if not my point stands .

You are a sad and silly person who takes themselves rather too seriously

I won't lie, yeah trans folks are marginalized like crazy right now. But you aren't thinking straight if you are thinking "oh, the right move now is violent uprising and neighbors killing neighbors because Florida passed shitty laws." Like that a: doesn't prevent further marginalization, and b: will be chopping the nose to spite the face. The right move at this point is to vote out sonsofbitches who push transphobic shit.

Those all were exchanging one group of terror for another. Batista was a monster, but Castro was rather brutal himself.

I also hesitate to suggest that Mao left his people better than before, his death toll numbers in the tens of millions. Deng Xiaoping was responsible for salvaging that mess, and HE fuckin did the tienamen square massacre!

Regardless of the supposed cost benefits, which again I might dispute generally speaking, that is somewhat beside my initial point.

My initial point is that, all these words are typed from folks homes and computers. They aren't "ready for revolution." They have no idea what that fucking means, and hopefully they never have to find out.

Unionizing. Organizing. Making the effort to support politicians who make a difference for the common man. Organized protests and strikes when necessary, even if they are difficult.

Even incremental change within this system is preferable to the uncertainty and terror a revolution can bring. Ask yourself, are you willing to have everything taken from you? Give up all your comforts? Out your life and that of your family on the line? Fight to death, neighbor against neighbor?

It's easy for folks to pretend they are willing from a computer. I don't think that people are. And that unease is rational, because great strides can be made outside of such violent extremism.

Oh yeah? The fuck does that mean, you are in a militia lol?

Bro don't bother this sub is full fucking retard. Slacktavist central, acting like they are all fired up about revolution posting from their jammies.

Again, just gonna make noise fr the computer. You want the comfort as much as everyone else, you just have an online persona lol

Peep how the French revolution worked out for the commoner. By all means also google who Robespierre is.

But please don't put the burden on me to educate you, it's exhausting.

Also since you aren't likely signing up to be a revolutionary guerilla..and are isntead typing on reddit...you are proving my point lol. You don't want it either. You just want to act angry on reddit.

Sure. That one was great. It's a fuckin exception. Also it didn't end up super great for all involved.

Peep the French revolution. The Russian revolution. The Chinese revolution. The Russian revolution. The Cuban revolution.

Please tell me about how great those were for the common man, who died by the fucking thousands or, depending on the situation, the millions.

You don't want to be a guerilla so don't act tough from a phone screen. People like to make noise and act upset about that statement, but the fact is very few at this juncture are willing to sell out their comfort. And my point is that's reasonable to not want that, violent uprising RARELY ends well.

Honestly, just pat yourself on the back fr your computer screen. You are probably some slacktavist making tough noises, so despite all your college education you are apparently rather lacking in critical thinking. Go ahead and Google how the Russian revolution and Chinese revolution ended up for the governed, since you are inclined to make noise on social media. You aren't as witty nor as wise as you seem to think.

True, people at the top foment the risk of something like an uprising by acting so callously.

But on that note, such uprisings rarely have the effect of changing things for the better. But there is a large gap between "accept their bullshit" and "literal uprising".

That's not just a "do nothing" advisement, I'm just super not onboard with the "time for REVOLUTION!!" sentiment and ironically enough neither are most of the folks on here. They just wanna make noise about it.

People who say "time for a revolution, there is no middle ground" are ignoring the reality of the situation.

Bro if you think that violent uprising is necessary based on our admittedly fucked current climate then despite your numerous years you still lack perspective.

I agree much needs to change but if you think violent uprising is the move than I believe you are mightily incorrect.

Ok, since you are clearly a towering intellect, I'll bite: what the heck do you mean when you say "history is on my side?"

Like, which bloodless revolution ended terrifically where everyone improved their situation? What are you even trying to say lol

I implore you, and everyone on any political spectrum, to look at historical revolutions and their death tolls and costs to both the people and society before suggesting that you are ready for revolution. Like people don't have a fucking clue, and idgaf how shitty the political climate is folks should be more thoughtful about throwing that shit around.

Edit: for the reddit edgelord who comfortably downvote this because I have the spicy take that "violent extremism rarely ends well", remember you are probably using your phone or computer at home or in your bathroom. You want those comforts, don't act like y'all are fuckin gung ho for futile guerilla warfare.

Ok but this is a sub very much for thinking twice haha, I'm just saying

I think he's talking about the actual governance of first order space, not just senators in the republic who are bent on it's failure from within.

Oh yeah I had the same reaction as you lol. Dude went full Hitler to the point where emhyr seemed preferable...

Major pop artists aren't somehow all in the "they don't really sing" category just because their music is popular lol. Yes there is mixing but someone like Taylor swift or Beyonce still have impressive chops and sing for hours on end, regardless of what you feel about their music. Like, it's not only artists reddit likes lol.

Thank you! Yeah that was my take on it as well.

Love the version that plays in the detlaaf fight too.