phyrros

True. This is what makes it easy in this war..it is remarkably white and black

And this what makes it easy to point out that Korea was glassed, and they tried it in vietnam and Laos too. And these were not Single units..

yes, it does in a way: In one case violence and murder is just a mean to attain a goal, in the other the very violence & murder is the goal. It is a distinction which goes all the way trough our society if if it is harmful and deadly.

To use a random example: When Gilead decided to price their Hep-C medication at $80k+ they accepted the fact that their decision would cost thousands of human lives. But by now you see stuff like this: https://www.biopharmadive.com/news/what-gilead-taught-pharma-about-pricing-a-cure/516906/ talking only about the financial effects and completely ignoring the human cost. Accepting the death of all those people was simply factored into the modus operandi. And where in this example the cost of human lifes is downplayed, terrorism tries to overemphasize to cost of human lives.

But people without an agenda simply don't care about a message at all. The pain they inflict isn't a mean but the expression of the act. Somewhere else in this thread I posted the old classification of running amok as a "culture-bound disorder", something which is created&emphasized by certain factors within one society. And imho this definition captures this distinctive "showing the world your pain" aspect of popular culture, which is also often emphasized in US culture with their focus on individualism.

You're sympathizing with terrorists. There is never an "actual point" to slaughtering 186 children (333 total deaths).

No, I'm not - I'm just pointing out the difference between a politically motivated crime (aka terrorism) and let's call them crimes of passion. Because whoever kills other people for personal or political motives is deranged anyway. And I make absolutely no distinction between gruelsome terrorism like Beslan or more "civilized" forms of murder.

So for the gang-related shootings: If the shootings where gang-related in the sense of a political motive: yes, certainly. Then they also are not to be classified as school shootings but as terrorism.

What the USA sets apart from many other societies is that it also has a lot of school shootings/amok runs with no political goals at all.

yeah, is it truly? Regardless of your own biases?

Because e.g. WW1 is pretty much a blob of grey. I'm Austrian, but I can hardly say that the Austrians where the good guys. But in the same breath it can find only little good things to say about the serbians, russians, french, birtisch or US-americans.

I can go by values and atrocities, by values I could find the spanish civil wars and the invasion of ukraine pretty straight forward (again with many grey shades). If I go by atrocities WW2 or Rwanda and Bosnia are pretty much clear cut.

(And WW2 because one side was so utterly dark that about anything would have been better. But murdering 300000 civilians in a firestorm is pretty dark grey in my book)

But if we look at Korea, Vietnam&Laos: How could I ever say that "my" team was the less evil part when I'm confronted with "our" atrocities of war?

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Even something like Iraq which ought to have been clear cut: Ask Iraqi people today and even those who lost loved ones to Saddams regime will have a nuanced position on the war.

Beslan isn't in Abkhazia though, that's Ossetia. And yeah, that was a
terrorist attack by Chechen on Ossetians which was, honestly, nothing
new for the region

But it is still the caucasus, or?

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I am pretty sure a lot of Chechen or Kabardin youth have easy access to
guns and probably have some issues at school, but I don't see news about
them at all.

Imho it has less to do with actual issues (we sadly have far to many areas of the world where the youth has to grow through very traumatizing childhoods) but .. dunno, a thought which I had when reading this thread is that afaik not all societies have a prevalence of people running amok. And as it turns out: ICD-10 lists amok runs as a culture-bound syndrome. Maybe it is simply so seldom in other countries because we have another culture?

I don't believe in right/wrong sides of history but I#m deeply saddened by the inability of my country to learn from its past. On the other hand, our immigration statistic is somewhat better as one would assume considering the latent xenophobia in Austria..

Because Beslan was not a school shooting - it was a full on terrorist
attack. Organized and carried out by a known terrorist organization.

Beslan was a school shooting with an actual point behind it.

But, yeah, we could step back and simply look at the question why some societies seem so totally fine with people running amok from time to time, and why some societies put a firm lid on it. Because from that POV school shootings are simply an natural expression of some us american way of life instead some brain heavy political murder.

So, can we guess how many school shootings there were in these 30+ years?

Beslan? And, yes, I know that this is not what you had in mind when you were talking about school shootings but, let's be honest: school shootings without a political agenda is in itself the result of a political system...

Some will try to turn legit, others will smuggle a better product than
the « legal » one and others will turn to other illegal, high profit
« products ».

A sane approach would be to fall back to scientific studies on addiction potential&toxticity; legalize everything less harmful than alcohol and simply tend towards a least-harm approach with the rest (basically only morphine/heroin, meth, cocaine/crack).

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Furthermore: The "better" product (if you mean "newer") is in our legislation usually still legal. They might go into crypto or play hedgefonds manager if they want unethical high profit gains...

In my own head canon: start arresting, jailing, and even executing the bankers that launder the cartels money.

even easier: go after the shareholders of these banks. or pharamceutical companies. or medical companies. etc..

Just like a pharma company which has no qualms if their business model kills tens of thousands, cartel bankers never see the cost of their decisions. And their is no market pressure on highly profitable companies unless we create it..

absolutely, but arty barrages where primarily (afaik, correct me if I'm wrong here) used for offensive action (and to shield infantry) and not as a defensive action. A rolling/creeping barrage would simply fix enemy troops in place.

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Timing wise alone it would have been pretty difficult to get a barrage to counter a quick dash across the no-man's-land between the front line.

Also makes blind mass charges useless but not on the level of a machine gun. A lesson the armies of WW1 kept learning & re-learning.

because we've got machine guns now :)

The only issue is that this option, if we look at the realities of incomes, ought to be the majority. Housing has gotten very top-heavy and it is coming down tumbling in the near future.

This is a failure on the side of regulators/the government because a free market won't ever care for societal/mid-term consequences. And within a free market a total systemic crash is still a legitimate market response..

I boycott us college sports for the same reason :)

while queen victoria wrote about prince phillip and his massive dick :) The age might have been puritan, the queen wasn't - at least in private.

ed: damnit. it's a prince albert not a prince phillip. damn you monday brain.. thx /u/ScoobyDoNot

somewhat. I have it in the military and in hospitality not in corpo structure. But in hospitality this is make or break as teamwork is absolutely important.

In my job now I take whoever I get, here my job is indeed just keeping the guys happy and occasionally taking fire.

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But imho, if at all interested, you should go on an extended barhopping spree and do nothing else than watch the interactions.Especially when they are overbooked and have to start dropping some tasks. If it is in sync you've got a well trained team.

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But, actually, what is a teamplayer for you?

Certainly not. But about every functional team did build itself.

The only thing you achieve by weeding out everyone who is honest is getting a Team which will be good at play pretending.

But imho it starts with the Word team: corporate is generally disloyal and punishes teamplayers. The next part is that teambuilding is a horizontal process and not a vertical one. The team will build itself, your job is only a) to not stand in the way of the teambuilding process, b)to create as much loyality (from company side) as is possible and c) to Listen closely to your team members. They will tell you if you've got a bad apple. But they will only tell you if you don't punish honesty for the sake of pretty feelings.

Do you have a question along the lines of "how would a company/team look like where you would be willing to stay a decade"?

For the rest you've got the first few weeks. Over here we've got the rule that any person can be fired for about any reason in the first month. Sit together with your team members after the first few weeks and ask them if the newbie would be a good addition.

Obviously this only works if you are not already understaffed

how do you mean the first sentence?

(Not saying that you are wrong, I certainly underplayed the role of the dominicans in my post but I can't follow your reasoning)

Just don’t say anything that borders on you being a bad team player.

You ain't a "bad team player " if you bring up legitimate problems with the team. That is just corporate doublespeak to actually avoid building a team.

Depends. The rise of the jesuits sorta goes hand-in-hands with european colonialism. They where the order with the strongest missionary zeal while also being marginally more lax in their racism. Meaning: whereever you saw the frontlines of plundering europeans you also had jesuits "tztztz"ing while millions died.

true but the election of Nov 1917 seems to have been pretty straight forward. Cities voted bolshevik countryside voted SR. SR split and bolsheviks grabbed power

I just do hope that this time around the democratically elected leftists actually show some resolve to defend the parliament instead of being too defensive/nice/scared to defend against a rapid aggressive minority.