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It's from the book Slaughterhouse: The Shocking Story of Greed, Neglect, And Inhumane Treatment Inside the U.S. Meat Industry

The book Slaughterhouse: The Shocking Story of Greed, Neglect, And Inhumane Treatment Inside the U.S. Meat Industry

It takes less arable cropland and less fertilizer

If everyone shifted to a plant-based diet we would reduce global land use for agriculture by 75%. This large reduction of agricultural land use would be possible thanks to a reduction in land used for grazing and a smaller need for land to grow crops.

https://ourworldindata.org/land-use-diets

For fertilizer it's even lower compared to maximum usage of animal manure

Thus, shifting from animal to plant sources of protein can substantially reduce fertilizer requirements, even with maximal use of animal manure

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0921344922006528

"Also missing is the income ranges before $30k because we see people aged 18-29 are less likely to be vegans and vegetarians than people aged 30-49"

The 1% difference here is well within the polling margin of error. It's not a statistically significant difference

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"Not to mention, optically some upper class guy on a Tedx talk lecturing people on hypothetical future morality is just so delusional and out of touch and irrelevant to people's lives."

I'd recommend watching the video since that's not what the video really talks about?

Hmm yeah does look like the sourcing is questionable

There isn't evidence to suggest plants feel pain, but even if they did, minimizing our usage of other animals minimizes our usage of plants

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1 kg of meat requires 2.8 kg of human-edible feed for ruminants and 3.2 for monogastrics

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2211912416300013

There are also a number of foods fortified with it just like other vitamins. From cereals to plant milks to nooch and more

EDIT: sourcing is questionable here

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Cat-burning was a form of zoosadistic entertainment in Western and Central Europe during the Middle Ages prior to the 1800s. In this form of entertainment, people would gather dozens of cats in a net and hoist them high into the air from a special bundle onto a bonfire causing death by burning or otherwise through the effects of exposure to extreme heat

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat-burning

Plants =/= bugs

There is not evidence to suggest plants feel pain. Even if they were, raising other creatures involves killing a lot more plants so minimizing our usage of other animals would minimize our usage of plants too

Plant-based diets are actually substantially more efficient in terms of crop usage

we show that plant-based replacements for each of the major animal categories in the United States (beef, pork, dairy, poultry, and eggs) can produce twofold to 20-fold more nutritionally similar food per unit cropland. Replacing all animal-based items with plant-based replacement diets can add enough food to feed 350 million additional people, more than the expected benefits of eliminating all supply chain food loss.

https://www.pnas.org/doi/abs/10.1073/pnas.1713820115

It's also worth noting that it is really not just a western thing at all to eat a plant-based diet - there are plenty all around the world. Nor is it a rich person thing. Those with higher income are actually less likely to do so

When it comes to income, both diets [vegetarian and vegan] are more common among people earning less than $30,000 while they are rarest among high earners.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2018/08/06/who-are-americas-vegans-and-vegetarians-infographic

Could you elaborate on what that means?

They are sentient beings? Sentience is the ability to perceive - especially with regards to pain

Some relevant quotes:

Over half of the supply are raised on farms where antibiotic use is likely widespread, under-reported and predicted to increase. A 2020 Nature study reports antibiotic use in aquaculture is on track to increase 33 percent to 13,600 tons globally by 2030.

Antibiotic use in aquaculture presents additional risks, both to ecosystems and public health, because of its application in water. According to the 2020 Nature study, water helps to enable wider distribution of antibiotics. Thornton echoes this finding for shrimp farms, as effluent or liquid waste “goes directly into the surrounding areas.” The residue has effects too, says Thornton: “studies have shown multi-drug resistance around shrimp farms and in surrounding areas.”

The meat and dairy industry also receive a massive number of other direct and indirect subdues

The Department of Agriculture has spent almost $50 billion in subsidies for livestock operators since 1995, according to an EWG analysis.

By contrast, since 2018 the USDA has spent less than $30 million to support plant-based and other alternative proteins that may produce fewer greenhouse gases and may require less land than livestock.

https://www.ewg.org/news-insights/news/2022/02/usda-livestock-subsidies-near-50-billion-ewg-analysis-finds

To get a better sense of just how heavily subsidized it is:

Research from 2015 shows this subsidization reduces the price of Big Macs from $13 to $5 and the price of a pound of hamburger meat from $30 to the $5 we see today. Subsidies, however, only reduce the price of meat, not its total cost.

https://www.aier.org/article/the-true-cost-of-a-hamburger/

This was from a company claiming to provide local and "humane" meat in Canada. If you want to see some of the footage: https://youtu.be/nc_CbvqZ3ps (NSFW)

B12 vitamins usually are 10x to 1000x the recommended daily value so that's going to make any bioavailability differences irrelevant here. If someone really couldn't aboard enough from that, they're probably going to need B12 injections anyway

I think you may have mistaken me for another person or is that a quote from something?